I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. The desire to know, when, how, and if he should take these shots along with an unquenched thirst for competition, lead Brian to shoot precision rifle events. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. In Pistols and Revolvers.. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. JavaScript is disabled. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. By As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I consider the type of bullet. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Shoots well, functions well and it is light enough. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. Since opening GA Precision, George has been building some of the finest precision bolt guns and custom rifles. COAL are generally +/- 0.005" seated using Lee seating die. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. was 1146fps. Obligatory start low and work your way up I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. Starting at mid range up to max. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. So filling up half way looks normal. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. Display as a link instead, So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. I found anything much lower to be too weak. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. JavaScript is disabled. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. Pasted as rich text. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. By 2011, she sold her farm and all of her horses to focus on 3-Gun and the 2nd Amendment. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. Skip this one, you can do better. What is your favorite firearm to load for? Believe me, I'm not TRYING to stretch or bend any rules. Thanks for your patience. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. Although such an edge clearly exists, its significance cannot be quantified". The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. What type of a load are you attempting to develope? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. Reply Quote. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 Upgrade efforts paused for now. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. It's for practice, not for competition. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. The terrain in Southern Idaho often requires a hunter to be able to take shots at 400 yards and well beyond. Better to be too careful than blow something up. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Thanks guys. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. You will get better accuracy and much better function with a mid-burn rate powder such as Unique, Universal, AA#5, or Power Pistol. JavaScript is disabled. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. I sold off all except Titegroup. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. I was happy at 4.0 gr in M&P 9 and Sig p938. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. As of 2014, Ryan and Dianna have become full time hunters and competitors, focusing most predominately on 3-Gun. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. 6 grains? My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. Paste as plain text instead, 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. I am also using the Xtreme bullets. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. and 8 lb. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. 3 grains? Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. Use the LRN and you will be good. As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. All I had was word of mouth and books. Seen a few of those over the years. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. Wish i could find it again. I haven't shot any yet but it would be disappointing if I had to pull 150 bullets. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Unique - 5.7 gn - 1250 fps. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. This powder is very popular. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? A consistent shooter, Regina has finished in the Top 20 routinely and in the Top 10 quite frequently in both the National Rifle League and Precision Rifle Series. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. I am gonna give it a try. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound.