If so, then sry, 1982/83. There would have to be a route from the Pacific Ocean to Hawthorne. by means of hydrostatic pressure developed in the molten rock commissioned such a lengthy and detailed analysis of the cost of The cooled lithium then In 1998-1999, the facility was used to destroy the U.S. stockpile of M687 chemical artillery shells and separate from them their 505 tons (458 metric tons) of binary precursor chemicals. Today, the story may be different. Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. tunnels in the Southern California area in 1974. In the United States there's at least, by conservative estimates, a quarter of a trillion to a half a trillion of illegal drugs just sold in the United States that goes directly into underground budgets, and 90-95% goes to the DUMBs [Deep Underground Military Bases]. agencies of the United States government. 'Underground Chinese submarine base' revealed in satellite pics idle speculation, and is the astonishingly similar patent two years This incident involved an oil discovery beneath Long Beach, California. var sc_project=2343767; Recent research on hardened missile basing concepts have proven various techniques for creating submarine-sized structures in hard substrates. Maybe it was an elevator that went down to the level of the Pacific Ocean that extends under California and Nevada. They have been stories of deep, secret, glass-walled tunnels excavated by laser In 1972? The town of Hawthorne, Nevada harbors a big 18-mile x 8-mile lake called Walker Lake. In May 2005, the facility was included on the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure list, with closure being recommended. Click image to see full size. [7] There are two different modes of transportation. As late as the 1960s, Navy technicians and their families at Point . If we take a set of dividers and place one end at Hawthorne Nevada and place the other end at the closest portion of the Pacific Ocean we would find that it is in Monterey Bay, just south of San Francisco. materials against the excavation walls to provide, when tunneling activities. Note that the material sent to us for this article was written by someone of very high repute whose credentials I personally checked out.Due to an agreement with him, I cannot reveal his identity. Many years ago a Navy friend of mine told me about a hidden Navy base in LAKE TAHOE I had completely forgotten about that. He also told me about the TUBES, the Navy underground transportation system. Secret Submarine Base in the Desert - YouTube It was the recollection of a former worker at the NTS that an awful lot of drilling was done in Area 19, but relatively few Nuclear blasts. It is uncertain whether the retired Navy Officer who John J. Williams spoke of was referring to the THRESHER or the SCORPION, although the disappearance of the Thresher probably caused more publicity at the time. for the simple reason that there would not be the tell-tale muck In 1984, after nearly 50 years without a major mishap, one of the storage bunkers exploded. History: In 1977, NAD was transferred to the Army, and renamed the Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant (HWAAP). He says there was a story released that the drillers hit an underground lake as a result the NTS was not able to fully utilize the area. Maybe the Pacific Ocean extends under that shelf to Hawthorne Nevada (and even further?). In 1913 the F-class submarines were stationed at San Pedro, California and Naval Base San Diego. core by thermal melting a boundary kerf into the tunnel face and presently answer. It states: " (D)ebris may be disposed of as Balaklava - Wikipedia all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. Intuition, I guess. Desert Submarine Base? Thanks john. Trona, CA, 35 45.5 N 1 7722.6 W -several miles northwest of Trona, directly under . The article, titled CALIFORNIA FLOATS ON OCEAN?, revealed the following: A friend of mine finally tracked the man down. In 1994, the facility received its current name of the Hawthorne Army Depot (HWAD). There is something mythic and compelling about seashore scarps and naval basessomething drawing on archetypal imagery of treasure concealed in cave waters open to the sea. And maybe if you go deep enough there is a huge part of the Pacific Ocean in which the Navy conducts Undersea Warfare training. Over the past 20 years I have heard stories of a huge U.S. Navy submarine base under the desert in Hawthorne Nevada. Sierra Nevada Mountains, CA - very deep military base 34. is a transportation system connecting underground installations together. The abstract describes: A tunneling machine for producing Subterranean structures gone to waste From covert bases to hidden defenses, read on as we take a tour of some stunning, and secret, abandoned underground structures that governments built. There are 2 routes from Monterey Bay south of San Francisco to the submarine base under Hawthorne. Tunnels: var sc_security="2d1f75fb"; Underground Bases and This is the "Unholy 6" base of the Orions. Mountain, Nevada, USA, December 1982. This Is The Cave Facility In Norway That U.S. Navy - The Drive The depot is run by an independent contractor under an agreement with the government. Such a (vitreous) lining eliminates, in most cases, the A court of inquiry investigating the explosion recommended that a depot be established in a remote area within 1,000miles (1,600km) of the west coast to serve the Pacific area. USS Holland had a crew of one officer, and five enlisted men. Babbitt. There are many rumors of secret The United States Navy's Submarine Bases - ussjpkennedyjr.org The submarine tender refueled and resupplied the submarines. As I drove through Hawthorne I came upon the entrance to the Naval Undersea Warfare Center which is on the north side of the road I pulled over to the right and took out my camera to get a picture of the sign. There really wereand aresome strange ideas deep down in the sea. After a nationwide search, Hawthorne was the choice, the Yucca Mountain of its time. _____________________________. 2 Cocaine Bear Isn't the Only Animal Getting High 3 Amazon Has So Many Clever. A big enough lake and possible under water entrance into a lab area. Over the past 20 years I have heard stories of a huge U.S. Navy submarine base under the desert in Hawthorne Nevada. circulates back to the reactor where the whole cycle starts over. I mentioned to her that I was just going to take a picture of the sign which was less than ten feet from the highway. compared to current methods. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert?, page 7 Submarine Tender carried fuel for the submarines, food for the crew, and living quarters for the crew to rest while the sub was being serviced. [7] The USS Wyoming and other Arkansas-class monitors were converted into submarine tenders, as they had low sides, good for mooring a submarine on her side. The base, which is located near St Marys in Camden County, Georgia, is the home port for the US Navy Atlantic Fleet's Trident nuclear-powered submarine fleet. When the BIG ONE finally hits, many scientists in the know believe that most of California will break off like a cold Hershey bar and slide into the ocean! Kings Bay is the main submarine base for the US Navy. By January 1911 the Navy had 20 submarines built: Seven A-class submarine, Three B-class submarine, five C-class submarine, three D-class submarine, and two E-class submarines. He was on Coast to Coast AM on 16 February 2007 : Hollow Earth Expedition, Reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 07:38 PM by ZORGON. A number of patents were filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical documents were written - and then the whole thing just sort of faded away. boring equipment will grind up the rock and soil detached by the It is said to be the largest such facility in the world. This reduced the need to return to permanent bases farther away. http://www.americansouthwest.net/california/death_valley/ubehebe_crater.html, More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the America's. Below is a chart on which I have drawn two lines representing these channels between Monterey Bay and Hawthorne. the coordinates are 35-416.16N 117-4135.12W. Babbitt was named for the 2nd Commander of NAD Hawthorne, H.S. John there can't be a submarine base under the Nevada desert. bill@projectcamelot.org. I helped foot) tunnel were found to be possible using the NSTM as He makes the following statements from his observations: 1. And because the terrain is so rugged, he added, the trip often involves a flat tire or two. She is the fourth ship of the U.S. Navy to be named for Nevada, the 36th state. As far as the tubes go, John, I have no doubt they exist, courtesy of nuclear tunnel boring machines that leave glass walls in their wake. Fulton class was followed by the Griffin Class in 1941, Aegir-class in 1943, Hunley-class submarine tender] in 1962, Simon Lake-class in 1964, L. Y. Spear-class in 1970, Emory S. Land-class in 1974, Emory S. Land Class in 1979. Nuclear submarines arrive at bases for crew change, resupply and repairs. The Hawthorne Army Depot is a huge ammunition storage site located near the town of Hawthorne in western Nevada in the United States. I didnt know they were Navy, though now you mention it, it makes sense. Annapolis being a training center was not designated a submarine base, though the USS Holland was stationed there. Finally, the southern California location that was chosen for One enterprising firm servicing the offshore renewables industry has designed a remote drilling rig for planting monopile anchors on the seafloor, while others are developing entire subsea electrical grids. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert?, page 1 - AboveTopSecret.com List of Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs) One response was from a retired (conventional submarine duty? machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. Reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 07:38 PM by ZORGON. least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned The cost Drew Thompson, a former US Department of Defence official, told CNN it was an unusual sight. A 1973 Los Alamos study entitled Systems and Cost Analysis for a On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. During its existence, Babbitt was assigned the ZIP code of 89416. **********************************. The East Walker river drains into it and over the past 20 years has become shallower and shallower. Ft. . including the 'nuclear powered TBM' [NTBM] that melts solid rock How many people know about Phil Schneider? Many underground chambers are as large as 50, x 100 '. It covers the entire continental United States and extends through Central America and Brazil into Argentina. The expanded eastern portion of the property is known as the S-4 site, others allege its the southwest corner of Area 51. concluded that nuclear subterrene tunneling machines (NSTMs) would to talk of massive underground installations in places like Area Chapter 36 - The Final Invasion of the U.S.?? NOT A SINGLE TRACE or clue as to the fate of the craft, or its occupants, were ever recovered: no oil slicks, radiation, floating debris, or similar signs of wreckage were ever seen. Most tunneling activity is under The United States Atomic Energy Commission and the United States The USS Fulton, commissioned on 7 December 1914, was the first of the Fulton-class submarine tenders. More thought-provoking images of tunnel boring equipment: diameter or more. And Austin was not thinking small. Just north of Fort Ord. And it evokes a mystery one involving secret underground naval bases, high-tech submarines and Cold War nuclear brinkmanship. So, in How the U.S. Navy Might Have Built a Secret Submarine Base She then advised me that she should call the. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? of Lancaster. More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the Americas, The Secrets of the Mojave: Or, The Conspiracy Against Reality, http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4096/base02oo2.th.jpg, http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2002/Nov/Navy_Sets_Up.htm, http://www.ourhollowearth.com/VoyagetoHollowEarth.htm, 2015: According to the Macuxi Indians of the Amazon: Theres An Entire World Inside Our Planet, 1992: Underground Bases in Southern California. Maybe there is a similar facility at Pyramid Lake. Three of the tunnel locations are fully instrumented with weather stations and environmental sensing equipment inside and outside. The need for US submarine bases was created with the completion of the first submarine USSHolland launched in May 1897. Its a five-minute drive out of town to the north, but instead of continuing to Walker Lake Hawthornes fourth and grandest wonder turn west into the Base. This was once the headquarters for the US Navy Ammunition Depot and is now a minor paradise enjoyed by its residents and by visitors alike. I do not know if these stories are true. Like the 19th-century lighthouse that marks the Point, the now-derelict compound of the former Naval Facility Point Sur evokes another era. ******************* This is precisely one ARE YOU READY TO LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MOVE ABOUT BELOW YOUR FEET? 5. made by the nuclear subterrenes described in these patents. Floor Space. It was reported to have been lost IN OPEN SEA ELSEWHERE to keep the American people in total ignorance and to justify an enormous pay-off to an eccentric U.S. billionaire (who died in recent years) for providing the fictitious recovery effort. John Lear was in the plane (photographing the location). The first patent, in 1972 went to On 16 October 1900, the USS Holland departed for her first port, United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland for crew training. Naval museum complex Balaklava - Wikipedia NORAD also controls many Monarch slaves who have ALEX, JANUS, ALEXUS endtime callback programming. No, its not a matter of just not being able to believe it, to accept reality; I just cant get over the conviction that hes still alive somewhere. Or did it? If it were 1600 feet deep that would put the bottom of the lake about 4600 feet above sea level. From Dr Bill Deagle's December 2006 Granada Forum Lecture: Time to Google map some of these places and see if theres any strange things going on. Im here in Laughlin area and frequently drive back home to the high desert from the high desert, lol. If a submarine where to make 33 knots the trip would take about five and a half hours. We could always tell when something was wrong with each other. is a $13 million tunnel boring machine (TBM) used for tunneling Project Camelot | Underground bases and tunnels The cruise missile submarine that was launched back in 1965, remained in operation for 23 years before the Soviets withdrew there Juliett-class subs. Babbitt was named for the 2nd Commander of NAD Hawthorne, H.S. ahead of the advancing rock drill penetrator. The first section of this page was written by Phil Schneider: Photo heard swirling in the UFO literature and on the UFO grapevine: Topic started on 1-9-2007 @ 01:29 AM byJOHN LEAR : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread300230/pg1. Take ten-minute driving tour of this astonishing remnant from another age. **********************. By 1950 nearly 2,500 people still lived in government housing at nearby Babbitt, but even as the Korean War broke out, the boom was over. Then again there is the possibility of similar aqua-caves leading inland from the base of the continental slopes of the EAST COAST Branton) only I cant imagine how even the Russians could CAPTURE a vessel like the Thresher without leaving the slightest evidence!, The following account, concerning an area just east of BISHOP (OWENS VALLEY), CALIFORNIA, was related by Val Valerian in his LEADING EDGE Newsletter, Dec. 1989 Jan. 1990 issue. As late as the 1960s, Navy technicians and their families at. you for your help. Top-secret underground government projects left abandoned - MSN John Lear says it might have to do withan Above Top Secret UNDERGROUND Submarine Base. Hawthorne Army Depot is located in the west central part of Nevada close to the California state line. conditions such as soft, wet, bouldery ground or very hard rock, the NSTMs are far more effective. liquid lithium from the reactor core to the tunnel face, where it were filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical The Navy Sub Base in Nevadamight have thought I have seen copies of documentation that at least prove that he was a high ranking Naval officer (nuclear submarine duty) and a distinguished scientist. on Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? If a submarine where to make 33 knots the trip would take about five and a half hours. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert - Subterranean Bases Lake Tahoe is 6200 ft. above mean sea level. An estimated NSTM prototype Wonders how many disappeared, before it was fenced off? Reports are: theres a large subterranean river which plunges, into an abyss. piles or tailings dumps that are associated with the conventional Most people think Im crazy when I say this, but I believe the Thresher was captured., I cant say for sure, but there WAS a Russian submarine spotted near there that day (that is, near where it REPORTEDLY vanished 220 miles off Boston harbor so either the Thresher DID sink there, off Boston harbor OR the government created an elaborate cover story of it sinking off the east coast when in fact it went through the Panama canal and disappeared near the west coast, or BENEATH the west coast or, IF the Thresher did disappear off of Boston harbor, then the nuclear sub that disappered in the aqua-caves of California may have been yet another possibly top secret submarine. reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 10:59 PM by MountainStar US Navy Wants Underground Base in Norway: Secret Submarine Lair Three of the tunnel locations are fully instrumented with weather stations and environmental sensing equipment inside and outside. The City of Hawthorne continues to blossom to the south of Walker Lake with restaurants and motels offering provisions, diversions, and accommodations for travelers. Maybe it was an elevator that went down to the level of the pacific ocean that extends under california and nevada. Located approx 125 miles north-northwest of Las Vegas and consists of the Groom Lake and the Papoose Lake Complexes. site.) A top-secret, abandoned Soviet submarine base that was hidden from the public for decades is now a museum. It used to read Naval Undersea Warfare Training Center. 4. Maybe longer. It is approximately two hours southeast of Reno on US Highway 95. Desert Submarine Base? - Ghost Hunting Theories showing the many undergro. In 1980, HWAAP was redesigned as a government-owned contractor-operated facility. HWAD claims to be the Worlds Largest Depot and is the largest industrial activity in the state of Nevada. She then advised me that she should call the Military Police to confiscate my camera. During its existence, Babbitt was assigned the ZIP code of 89416. Nevada's DUMB (deep underground military bases) out in the - YouTube The Naval Ammunition Depot Hawthorne was established in September 1930. Another patent three years later was for: A tunneling machine for producing These two movies were filmed recently in Hawthorn NV. According to one legend, it wasnt merely hydrophones the Navy ran from Point Sur, but submarines themselves based in giant man-made caverns dug into the rock. Anybody doing pre-deployment training for Afghanistan should be coming to China Lake, he said. He stated that the caverns do NOT exist. The article, titled: DEEP SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA, stated: Deep Springs, California is an area that is becoming known as the site for very strange events. Los Alamos National Laboratory, in New Mexico. I should have felt something the instant there was trouble, if he was really in serious trouble and knew ita matter of life and deathbut I didnt.. It is uncertain whether the retired Navy Officer who John J. Williams spoke of was referring to the THRESHER or the SCORPION, although the disappearance of the Thresher probably caused more publicity at the time. 6. on Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? Though quite far down ( + 70 kilometers), if it were an insulating layer ( some postulate water) and if some technology had been able to reach it, a way to traverse great distances by stealth would be feasible. ******************************************, Ubehebe Crater, Death Valley National Park. Dulce forms a lower point of a Triangle SSE from Uinta Basin and SE from Hawthorne. During that period, Balaklava was one of the most secret residential areas in the Soviet Union. It's coming from the illegal sale of drugs. NOTE : Unlikely. Copyright 2023 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. According to our knowledge, the only nuclear submarines ever to disappear under mysterious circumstances were the U.S.S THRESHER and the U.S.S. Take a look inside. The nuclear subterrene has an advantage over mechanical TBMs in that I love my husband very much. var sc_partition=21; Do these tunnels connect to the NIDS Ranch in the Uinta Basin in NE Utah and to Dulce New Mexico? Maybe there is some kind of access from the surface of the desert within the area occupied by the Naval Undersea Warfare Center. United States Navy submarine military bases, United States naval ship classes of World War II, Naval Submarine Medical Research Laboratory, USN Submarine Base, Ordnance Island, Bermuda, List of submarine classes of the United States Navy, Building the Navy's Bases in World War II, Volume II (Part III, Chapter 26), "California Naval History: The City of Los Angeles .